Who wants the Corvette ZR1 Style Wing with ZL1 1LE Brackets? - Page 2

WEAPON-X · 02-02-2019, 07:53 PM

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Originally Posted by BOWTIEBOB

I have the 2019 ZR1 ZTK with the high wing. The 900 plus pounds of down force reaches max at or near top speed as I understand it 200 plus mph. Would like to see 155 mph comparison to learn actual increase in down force. On the ZR1 it is "front balanced" with an underwing to prevent the lift and instability that can accompany that much down force. Furthermore, the ZTK wing is mounted with hardwar to the frame with metal brackets. Weapon X uses billet for his ZR1 brackets but I don't know if factory trunk mount brackets would be strong enough for that much down force. I have a 2017 ZL1 and would have to determine the instability and steering response to so much down force on the rear. Weapon X quality and engineering is second to none however I would like to see some data on durability, handling and other factors affecting safety before mounting this laege wing on the trunk of my ZL1.

The total downforce of the entire car is 900lbs, not just the wing

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Originally Posted by angryBits

I hate to be the nay-sayer but I don't think this is going to be a performance improvement, only cosmetic. It may even hinder performance compared to the OEM ZL1 1LE wing.

GM already went ludicrous-mode on the ZL1 1LE, including its wing. If the ZR1's wing was going to improve performance I sure they would have used it.

I'd bet the ZL1 1LE's wing is the exact balance of downforce and drag to reach optimal lap times.

My guess would be that the ZR1 wing is going to hurt lap times and certainly hurt 0-60 and 1/4 mile times if you're into that.

Having said all that -- there's nothing wrong with modding purely for cosmetic reasons

Just putting it out there.

ZR1 came out a littttttle later than the ZL1 1LE

Intimidator · 02-02-2019, 10:06 PM

Keep us posted Ben...I want a beefier rear wing with medium stanchions, but I still can't picture the ZR1 wing on the ZL1, in my mind!

angryBits · 02-02-2019, 10:37 PM

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Originally Posted by WEAPON-X

ZR1 came out a littttttle later than the ZL1 1LE

Their development timelines overlapped quite a bit.
If there was an opportunity to share a part between them, that would have happened.

No doubt the wing research teams collaborated since they're similar (a long way from the previous gen).

If GM chose not to put the ZR1 wing on the ZL1 1LE, they had a good reason.

WEAPON-X · 02-03-2019, 10:08 AM

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Originally Posted by angryBits

Their development timelines overlapped quite a bit.
If there was an opportunity to share a part between them, that would have happened.

No doubt the wing research teams collaborated since they're similar (a long way from the previous gen).

If GM chose not to put the ZR1 wing on the ZL1 1LE, they had a good reason.

Have you ever seen Corvette and Camaro "share" the same wing? No... Their aero is designed around the car entirely by two completely different design teams and engineering teams.

angryBits · 02-03-2019, 03:27 PM

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Originally Posted by WEAPON-X

Have you ever seen Corvette and Camaro "share" the same wing? No... Their aero is designed around the car entirely by two completely different design teams and engineering teams.

You make my point. If the wings were designed around the car by teams focused on that car, why would you think slapping a ZR1 wing (designed for a Corvette) on a Camaro would be better than a 1LE wing designed for a 1LE?

And to be honest, I've never seen a wing on a Camaro or a Corvette from the factory until now.

Tabloma · 02-12-2019, 12:12 AM

I would like to have one for my A10 zl1👍

MakCamaro · 01-23-2022, 07:40 AM

So what happened to this great looking wing?

Number 3 · 01-23-2022, 08:23 AM

First, without using CFD to at least provide some data, it’s tough to just throw numbers around like this based on Corvette. You’d be surprised at the little things that can impact aerodynamics. As pointed out, the base aero of the cars body and shape has so much impact on how the air will hit that wing and what it can actually do. Speaking from experience here.

Second any wing that provides more down force also provides less FE.

Third, OP I appreciate the effort here. A ton of work. But the wing is overpowering the appearance of the car. 7” wider is simply too big for the appearance, just JMO and that’s something others might appreciate. Good luck.

SHE'Z 18 · 01-23-2022, 11:27 AM

What about this style wing for the Camaro!? I think the new C8 Z06 is exotic looking + functionality. I’d love to see how this (style) would look on our cars

https://cdcssl.ibsrv.net/cimg/www.ca...002-644602.jpg

dfxrte · 01-24-2022, 06:27 PM

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Originally Posted by SHE'Z 18

What about this style wing for the Camaro!? I think the new C8 Z06 is exotic looking + functionality. I’d love to see how this (style) would look on our cars

https://cdcssl.ibsrv.net/cimg/www.ca...002-644602.jpg

this would look horrendous on the zl1

kropscamaro16 · 01-24-2022, 06:31 PM

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Originally Posted by dfxrte

this would look horrendous on the zl1

haha might as well get this wing from ebay

https://www.ebay.com/itm/164922135494

SteveV · 01-24-2022, 06:39 PM

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Originally Posted by kropscamaro16

haha might as well get this wing from ebay

https://www.ebay.com/itm/164922135494

OMG, that wing is hideous...

SHE'Z 18 · 01-24-2022, 09:21 PM

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Originally Posted by kropscamaro16

haha might as well get this wing from ebay

https://www.ebay.com/itm/164922135494

OMG!!! Hell No!!!

PROMETHEUS · 01-24-2022, 09:31 PM

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02-12-2019, 12:12 AM	#20
Tabloma Drives: Red ZL1 Join Date: Jan 2013 Location: Illinois Posts: 174	I would like to have one for my A10 zl1👍 __________________ 2019 Torch Red ZR1 2015 RED HOT 1LE (traded in) 2018 Garnet Red ZL1-1LE (traded in) 2018 Red Hot ZL1 A10 (traded in) 2015 Z/28 Red Hot w/ GM Wickerbill (traded in) 2009 Siverado 2500HD (Tows and Plows) 2010 Cadillac CTS (Wifes driver) 2004 Corvette Z06 Commemorative Edition (Wife’s car) 2014 Subie Outback (My driver) Cushman Minute Misers and Scooter Cushman Minute Miser used parts abundance ASE Certified Master Mechanic ASE Certified Master Collision Repair Technician

01-23-2022, 07:40 AM	#21
MakCamaro Makis Drives: 2020 Red Hot ZL1 A10 Join Date: Apr 2019 Location: London - UK Posts: 806	So what happened to this great looking wing? __________________ Red Hot 2020 Camaro ZL1 A10 <-- Enjoying the hell out of it Mosaic black 2018 Camaro 2SS A8 (sold)

01-23-2022, 08:23 AM	#22
Number 3 Hail to the King baby! Drives: '19 XT4 2.0T & '22 VW Atlas 2.0T Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: Illinois Posts: 12,215 View My Garage	First, without using CFD to at least provide some data, it’s tough to just throw numbers around like this based on Corvette. You’d be surprised at the little things that can impact aerodynamics. As pointed out, the base aero of the cars body and shape has so much impact on how the air will hit that wing and what it can actually do. Speaking from experience here. Second any wing that provides more down force also provides less FE. Third, OP I appreciate the effort here. A ton of work. But the wing is overpowering the appearance of the car. 7” wider is simply too big for the appearance, just JMO and that’s something others might appreciate. Good luck. __________________ "Speed, it seems to me, provides the one genuinely modern pleasure." - Aldous Huxley

02-02-2019, 10:06 PM	#16
Intimidator Drives: 69 GTO, 05 GTO, 2018 Silver ZL1 Join Date: Jan 2012 Location: Springfield, OH Posts: 847	Keep us posted Ben...I want a beefier rear wing with medium stanchions, but I still can't picture the ZR1 wing on the ZL1, in my mind!

01-23-2022, 11:27 AM	#23
SHE'Z 18 Drives: 18 ZL1 - M6 Join Date: Mar 2019 Location: MI Posts: 446	What about this style wing for the Camaro!? I think the new C8 Z06 is exotic looking + functionality. I’d love to see how this (style) would look on our cars https://cdcssl.ibsrv.net/cimg/www.ca...002-644602.jpg

01-24-2022, 09:31 PM	#28
PROMETHEUS Drives: 2019 ZL-1, Shadow Gray, Sold Join Date: Jan 2019 Location: Fredericksburg, VA Posts: 1,390	Old Thread.....

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