03-25-2014, 08:38 AM | #169 |
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The early 2nd Gens especially with the split bumper are gorgeous. If they mimicked those I would be less than upset. The late ones mid 70's on were less than pretty to me.
I figure it will be a continuation of the 5th gen. It just makes too much sense. Sent from my DROID RAZR HD using Tapatalk
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03-25-2014, 12:31 PM | #170 |
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In my opinion, what Chevy needs to focus most on the next Camaro is:
1) Weight - The 5th gen is way too heavy and that hurts performance and fuel efficiency. 2) Performance - With the LT1 producing significantly more torque and a good bit more power than the Coyote, there is no reason the 6th gen V8 shouldn't run away from the GT. The 1LE is around because they made the base SS handle so poorly. The next gen SS should not be so cushy and soft. Even my mom said she would buy a 1LE over an SS because the SS was that bad. 3) Quality - It seems like the 5th gen is holding up well. Keep that up with the 6th gen. I know people want all sorts of technology packed into their car but that adds weight, cost and complexity. That also leaves out people who want a muscle car, not an ATS with a Chevy badge on it. I don't need standard 24 way adjustable power seats that warm and massage my ass. I can't remember the last time I moved my seat and if I do, it takes 10 seconds to get it back in the right spot. I have navigation on my iPhone, so leave out the expensive nav system. I have a phone with music so I don't need Pandora in my car. |
03-28-2014, 03:51 PM | #171 | |
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I pulled the leather airbag equipped four motor inflatable lumbar, tilt fwd/aft micro-adjust, recline-back seat out of my stang for an 18 degree fixed back SCAT drifter seat on a manual ratchet rack. One it cut 50# off the car. Two in aggressive driving no cushy seat cuts it. I do not want TFT DVD screens, telephones, GPS, talking-dashboards, teak wood, jade, gold, polished ivory or any of that bling in a muscle car. I do like classic rock so I want a driving stereo. Now that is what a muscle car is. I hope Chevy gives you what you want. Last edited by edco; 03-28-2014 at 04:19 PM. |
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03-30-2014, 04:21 PM | #172 | |
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As for me,Im 27 years old and yes, I want a fast car with a nice world class interior.Navigation,power seats and so on.I want them all.It should not be as cheap as it is now. Thanks God, the GM won't listen to you. |
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03-30-2014, 09:47 PM | #173 | |
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You want a luxury coupe. I want a Camaro. |
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03-31-2014, 11:30 AM | #174 |
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24 way seats aren't standard.
As for heated seats and a large display that is the new cost if entry. NAV adds very little weight and also not standard. Those wanting a stripper Cari will likely be taken care of. Those of us wanting a great Chevrolet as good as anything out there should be too. And that's the only point. The car should and can accommodate both sets of customers.
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03-31-2014, 11:42 AM | #175 | |
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My current Camaro is my downpayment on the new one!
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04-06-2014, 08:54 AM | #178 |
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Keep in mind that the base ATS does NOT have the following:
NAV CUE Leather Seats Fold Down Rear Seat Adaptive Cruise Lane Departure Warning Sun Roof 18" Wheels (17s are base) 8 way power seats with cushion tilt Yes you can get those things and more with the right package, but the base ATS is actually pretty base. I want a Camaro that makes me not want an RS5 (AWD not withstanding). Doesn't need to be a luxury car. Does need to be a great car.
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04-06-2014, 12:17 PM | #179 |
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You want a Camaro that you cross shop with a $69k Audi?
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04-06-2014, 01:06 PM | #180 |
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Some of the comments in here seem to be completely ignoring the fact that in order for this car to survive as Camaro should...it CANNOT be strictly a performance car.
There must be a "low power" base model, it must be relatively comfortable, yet sporty (see: base SS handles "horribly") because that's what 90%+ of people want... How to balance the diverse needs the brand must satisfy while still appealing to the enthusiasts? Honestly - I think the team has done as astounding job doing just that with the 5th generation. I'm glad most of the same people are working on this new one. Keep the faith! |
04-06-2014, 05:54 PM | #181 |
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Absolutely. You assume I'm cross shopping price. I'd be cross shopping performance. Audi has wonderful interiors but GM is getting closer across the board. And I would give up the Audi refinement and Quattro to have a Chevy that was wel balanced in performance and features. And yes I am simply hoping a NG Camaro can be that good.
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