[01cbr929]

Congrats - it is common sense.

[JSH]

Originally Posted by Broooster

Fellas, fellas, why is this even a thing?

Because this site is so boring that we're left to argue about which car has the largest... stones.

[CalgaryZL1]

Originally Posted by JSH

Because this site is so boring that we're left to argue about which car has the largest... stones.

I don’t find it boring, but I am not into arguing. There is a lot of insightful input for different issues and problems that we all have. Now back to the two word game.

[Z OH 6]

Originally Posted by Chippy

Oh yes I forgot you modded your car to be even faster to race pimple faced kids on the street. Never out grew your Hellcat days lol. Can you post that pic of your Hellcat again wearing that stained beater? The one that goes with a beer gut!

Originally Posted by Chippy

lol this guy is just entertaining for me. Nobody liked him on the Hellcat forum either. I guarantee he’s crying to a mod as we speak.

Dude, the funniest thing about you is that you think you're actually entertaining and funny. You're just immature and stupid.

[wnta1ss]

Pretty obvious that the 2017+ ZL1 A10 WITHOUT the 1LE package is the fastest street Camaro that was sold to the public by Chevrolet. Very simple really, the 1LE package for the ZL1 contains features that help road course lap times, but at the cost of higher aerodynamic drag. Same hp with higher aero drag equals slower top speed.

In support of that 312 km/hr (speedometer reading) ZL1 autobahn video, one of the members posted a vid (see below) back in 2017 of his stock A10 ZL1 running 173.9 in the standing mile (176 on the pdr). Knowing that the ZLE running 178.3 in the 2.7 mile video was only going 161.5 in the 1.0 mile run (first video below shows this), it's not difficult to understand that the A10 ZL1 should be quite capable of running 190+ mph with enough distance.


ZLE in the mile




A10 ZL1 in the mile

[BCT6956]

Originally Posted by Z OH 6

Oh I know. I'm just picking at 1LE owners since the vast majority seem to think there's no penalty for the aero components.

My opinion here but I see the 1LE in the Zl1 has a complete down grade at a premium $. You lose the best possible suspension (magneride)
to be paired with the alpha chassis, small plain looking not as attractive wheels, a giant (ugly) spoiler, and weird looking canards like a bass mouth with a fish hook in each corner. No thanks I like the classy look, best in class ride and handling all around with all the capability.

[JBones81]

this is true - but how many of us will ever find ourselves in a real world situation where the minor difference matters. I don't think I've ever had this car over 130. If I did, it would be on the track, and I'd rather have the 1LE then anyway

[Z OH 6]

Originally Posted by BCT6956

My opinion here but I see the 1LE in the Zl1 has a complete down grade at a premium $. You lose the best possible suspension (magneride)
to be paired with the alpha chassis, small plain looking not as attractive wheels, a giant (ugly) spoiler, and weird looking canards like a bass mouth with a fish hook in each corner. No thanks I like the classy look, best in class ride and handling all around with all the capability.

Originally Posted by JBones81

this is true - but how many of us will ever find ourselves in a real world situation where the minor difference matters. I don't think I've ever had this car over 130. If I did, it would be on the track, and I'd rather have the 1LE then anyway

It comes down to ride quality for me. The 1LE is not a fun drive on the streets unless you have perfect roads and no one does. There's just too much of a jump in ride harshness going from a magride ZL1 to a ZL1 1LE, on the other hand I also own a C8 Z06 with Z07 track package, the difference is that the ride quality is still quite good because the C8 Z06/Z07 still has magride and they didn't go bonkers with the stiffness compared to the standard Z06. The difference between the standard Z06 and Z07 package is only 8% stiffer. Its really almost unnoticeable. When they built the ZL1 1LE, the springs are 3x stiffer than the standard ZL1, that's a penalty that makes no sense for me since I won't be tracking the car regularly. To each their own, some people don't get bothered by the ZL1 1LE ride quality and some just pretend its ok to justify their purchase. I'm fine with it either way, I bought the car I wanted for me, not for anyone else.

[pauly1119]

Yes the 1LE is definitely slower at top end and probably also in the 1/4 mile but it sure looks a whole lot meaner and is the best Camaro ever built. So the 99% of the time we are driving around without racing it just looks a whole lot cooler. Either car is absolutely a badass car but the 1LE is a different level. With that said who cares, we should be making fun of Fords not our own.

[NG329]

Originally Posted by BCT6956

My opinion here but I see the 1LE in the Zl1 has a complete down grade at a premium $. You lose the best possible suspension (magneride)
to be paired with the alpha chassis, small plain looking not as attractive wheels, a giant (ugly) spoiler, and weird looking canards like a bass mouth with a fish hook in each corner. No thanks I like the classy look, best in class ride and handling all around with all the capability.

That's subjective opinion at most. For others like myself, the lack of aero makes the car look "Plain Jane".

The forged wheels are both lighter and stronger. The smaller diameter helps final drive ratio. The spoiler is indeed functional. Looks aside, it does add stability in higher speed corners as well as the canards.

It really depends on what you're after.

[Fenmore]

Originally Posted by 65ffr

Personally I've never been able to find a video of a regular ZL1 doing better than 175-ish. Don't think they can approach close to 198.
The 1LE has a shorter 6th gear helping it keep in the power at top speed, I think it may actually have a higher top end.
Someone please prove me wrong!!


edit...I was referring to the 6m...I know hennesey ran to 180 in a 10a. Still would like to see a 190-plus run somewhere!

Don't you know they use the same long downhill, with a tail wind, that they use to figure gas mileage numbers

[arpad_m]

Originally Posted by 65ffr

Personally I've never been able to find a video of a regular ZL1 doing better than 175-ish. Don't think they can approach close to 198.
The 1LE has a shorter 6th gear helping it keep in the power at top speed, I think it may actually have a higher top end.
Someone please prove me wrong!!


edit...I was referring to the 6m...I know hennesey ran to 180 in a 10a. Still would like to see a 190-plus run somewhere!

https://youtu.be/d1Lzdyr4mms

312 km/h (roughly 194 mph) on the Autobahn in Germany

[Badmojo]

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=NLie5E...wxIDFMRQ%3D%3D


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[JSH]

Hmm, I haven't lost to a ZL1 yet, so...