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Old 05-06-2024, 10:11 AM   #1
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Do you/did you believe it wouldnt happen to you too? Why?

Last couple of days I've seen a quite a few people say they didn't believe their car would be taken? I've seen others say that they are glad they live in ABC or would never live near XYZ. You know they follow you from public places and return later. Ride around neighborhoods doing recon. I've even seen posts offering $50 for a pin drop of sighted cars. We've been seeing the thefts here since Nov 23. We saw the Mopar guys go through it before that. Just like Mopar methods moved around the country the Gm method is too. Have you all really paid attention to whats going on and the methods? Why are people still parking on the street. A faraday bag isn't going to help you anymore. Please educate yourself, breaks my heart every morning seeing another one postd gone.
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Old 05-06-2024, 10:25 AM   #2
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I become very paranoid of my car being stolen. It really sucks because I hate not being able to go out park and enjoy any activities that I am doing without having to go check up on my car over and over. I have done many different things to my car that would make it hard to steal besides towing it. And living here in the SF bay area makes it worse.
And yet I know others who have literally changed their badging on their car to detour the thieves since they mostly are looking for the V8 models.
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Old 05-06-2024, 11:01 AM   #3
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I am not too concerned as I live in a decent area where the cops are still willing to look for criminal behavior before hand instead of just showing up after the fact to take a report. I also keep my car in a garage.

I am paranoid as hell about taking my car on any kind of trip anywhere and parking at a hotel overnight just because of what the OP describes. I was planning on taking a few days in the Dragons Tail area this fall but that would seem like a prime hunting ground for thieves to me. On the other hand, not the kind of place thieves would enjoy contact with local LE.
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Old 05-06-2024, 11:07 AM   #4
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There are thieves everywhere. The method to steal our cars isn't complicated, and even the stupidest of thieves can work it out.

Boggles my mind that 'we' can spend $20-75k on these cars, more plus mods, and people will cheap out on something like an Igla that will 100% prevent someone else from driving 'your' car off... especially now that they are a finite resource, and things like ZL1's are going to be incredibly hard to replace... toss in a rare color... add a manual... the options you 'want'... Good luck.
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Old 05-06-2024, 01:03 PM   #5
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i park my car inside a garage and behind a gate and both are locked 24/7 if they want my car that bad they can have it but goodluck most of these cars being stolen are in peoples driveways or street or apt complex parking lots
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Old 05-06-2024, 02:38 PM   #6
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I am not too concerned as I live in a decent area where the cops are still willing to look for criminal behavior before hand instead of just showing up after the fact to take a report. I also keep my car in a garage.

I am paranoid as hell about taking my car on any kind of trip anywhere and parking at a hotel overnight just because of what the OP describes. I was planning on taking a few days in the Dragons Tail area this fall but that would seem like a prime hunting ground for thieves to me. On the other hand, not the kind of place thieves would enjoy contact with local LE.

Same. Live in Virginia is a rural area. Not worried here. Went to a concert last night in Baltimore. No way was I bringing it to leave in a parking garage.


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Old 05-06-2024, 02:40 PM   #7
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Only time I worry if I drive into the city or any big city.

At home, you always keep an eye out but my cars (except the Toyota) are in the garage.

I also have great neighbors, cameras, alarms, dogs and if needed, 200 other reasons not to get near the house uninvited.
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Old 05-06-2024, 04:19 PM   #8
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Last couple of days I've seen a quite a few people say they didn't believe their car would be taken? I've seen others say that they are glad they live in ABC or would never live near XYZ. You know they follow you from public places and return later. Ride around neighborhoods doing recon. I've even seen posts offering $50 for a pin drop of sighted cars. We've been seeing the thefts here since Nov 23. We saw the Mopar guys go through it before that. Just like Mopar methods moved around the country the Gm method is too. Have you all really paid attention to whats going on and the methods? Why are people still parking on the street. A faraday bag isn't going to help you anymore. Please educate yourself, breaks my heart every morning seeing another one postd gone.
Why doesn't the faraday bag work anymore?
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Old 05-06-2024, 04:53 PM   #9
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Why doesn't the faraday bag work anymore?
Nowadays, they just break your window, access your OBD two port with a programmer, and a way they go.
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Old 05-07-2024, 08:44 AM   #10
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Nowadays, they just break your window, access your OBD two port with a programmer, and a way they go.
That's why, if you are a 6th Gen. Camaro owner, you need to do this today.
Call GM customer service and demand an security Update 1-800 222-1020. Just like JLR did for it customers for new and older vehicles. I have. If they get enough complaints that might just help us out. Even with thousands spent on security prevention we get broken windows due to this issue being know via tiktok.
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Old 05-07-2024, 08:57 AM   #11
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i park my car inside a garage and behind a gate and both are locked 24/7 if they want my car that bad they can have it but goodluck most of these cars being stolen are in peoples driveways or street or apt complex parking lots
Me too. And I have two dogs as well.
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Old 05-07-2024, 11:32 AM   #12
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Call GM customer service and demand an security Update 1-800 222-1020.
By calling them will we actually receive an update? If so, what specific update should we ask for?
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Old 05-07-2024, 01:59 PM   #13
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By calling them will we actually receive an update? If so, what specific update should we ask for?
A software update that prevents keys being programmed by the BCM hack method (plugging a device into a car’s diagnostic port, a key can be programmed in a matter of seconds allowing the car to be taken.) and also stop external devices from being able to send commands to the car’s computer system. Body module control software update. There’s now a form of customer authorization required before key programming is allowed to take place. Have authentication in the CAN bus
Or implement authentication and encryption on the OBDII scanners and applications.

Read thread, page 3 here: Okay, GM it's time you fixed this! JLR did.
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Old 05-07-2024, 04:55 PM   #14
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That's a little harsh. No one should have to live with the constant fear of their car getting stolen regardless of how much it's worth. This argument also falls apart when you consider how much easier it was to steal Kias a few years ago (maybe it still is?) and I don't believe most people would consider those "highly desirable."

It's far more constructive to hold the manufacturer's responsible and demand better security for our cars. At the end of the day, Camaros won't be the only ones to benefit from this increased security if GM listens and rolls out an update.

I'd be willing to wager that most of us in this forum didn't buy this car only to have it sit in a garage and not be driven literally anywhere. Heck, I've got a couple road trips coming up and I would much rather do them in my Camaro rather than some rental car.


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